Call it what you want. Your stated reason for suspecting me is the same kind of thing Monk did... But he you don't suspect him because...? I wouldn't say this kind of jumbled logic is weak.

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Sure, maybe the initial accusation was the same. I don't deny that. It's not jumbled logic, because our back and forth has, like I previously stated, furthered my suspicions of you. Monk and I haven't had that opportunity, yet.

This is how I play. If someone I accuse/vote for gives good reasons for me to not vote for them, I don't. You keep using things like, "well, so and so is did the same thing I did, so why me?" You were one of three I could have honed in on. I chose you because of a gut feeling, and you haven't convinced me that my guy feeling was wrong. You've dove the opposite, in fact, you've furthered my suspicions, and I've said that before. I'll keep voting for you, and trying to convince others to do so.

So, Town, join me in lynching Frank. I've stayed why in previous posts. Lynching is the only way we win.

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You had the opportunity and you waffled away from it.

The more we trade messages the more I actually feel like this vote I have casted on a scum. You're dancing around this idea you're not being logically consistent and when I have pointed this out you go further down the rabbits hole rather then making sense. At first I simply dismissed it as you believe in playing mafia in a different way then I do but now...

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unvote Sparky, vote Spiro

Frank's being consistent. Spiro has more reason to vote for me than he does Frank, but doesn't. Really, Spiro's stated suspicion stems from Frank's voting for Pyro based on his making a summation - something that Lander, Frank, and I all have proven we believe is a pretty nice scumtell. Now sure, Spiro's been consistent in voting for Frank for this, but is that a good thing when multiple people are picking up on that self-same dieal? Be suspicious of Frank and myself all you like, but Lander's actions suggest his agreement.

Oh, and guys, a Villager Topsummoner would never have missed an opportunity to point out that we're likely at MYLO - either because he doesn't want us to realize it, or because we're not and there are three mafia, given some powers by Jack as a balance; this knowledge rather easily slips by the dissonance in the cover a mafia needs to create.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills...

Frank's being consistent? He's voted for three different people today.

I'll be on a computer later tonight, and quote my consistencies. My original suspicion isnt the sticking point for me....not sure how you can both keep glazing over that...

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And how convenient, using Lander as someone on your side when he can't weigh in on today's convo...

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Ah, but note the lack of a qualifier on Frank's consistency, as opposed to yours. And I feel using Lander's past words are quite enough. Are we to treat people as absent if they don't post? Zilla would disagree as she killed Ko- OH WAIT NOPE CAN'T MENTION THE DEAD THEY CAN'T POST.

Well great. Good to see activity in abundance.

Using the words of the dead, who can never come back, is much different than implying that a muted person would vote with you...

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Only in that I can be refuted tomorrow ( if we have one). If anything, using the words of the dead is the'convenient' thing to do - they can't speak up ever.

I honestly don't get it, Monk. You siding with Frank at this point is sooo counterproductive. And for me NOT voting for you over Frank? Seriously? You just don't seem like mafia to me. I'm trying to be productive, here. I will try and rally all toward Frank, but would definitely change to one of the other three unconfirmed players that voted for Pyro, including you, if it meant we actually lynch someone today. We have to lynch. It's the only way we'll win. Sparky said it himself, if you're town, the debate is over. I'm not one to squelch discussion, but the time for productive action is here. I can't deny that my initial push for Frank was on a gut feeling vote. Since that, there hasn't been any substance to anything he's said. His voting is all over the place, and two are self proclaimed OMGUS votes. Everything he says is weak, and you've either bought into it, or are on his side.

It usually gets to this point with me in this game. Forever repeating myself. I guess I'll keep on until it sinks in, or the mafia kill me.

And where the hell are the other players? Muffin, care to explain anything? Market, care to change your vote to Top or Frank? Top, would you be willing to vote for Frank? Aragorn, care to join us?

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Thr? Bueller? Bueller?

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Sig mentioning the MYLO topic should make you all think long and hardd before voting for him, btw. Not something mafia wants to draw attention to.

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I honestly completely didn't realize we could be at MYLO until you pointed it out; Jack didn't mention how many players remained alive in the day start post, and I was operating on the hopeful assumption that there are only three mafia, given the woeful start we've had.

I can see why a mafia may want to bring it up; it creates hesitation in the votes of the village. If we lynch wrong today, we lose.

It makes it rather difficult for me to commit to a lynch-train I'm not sure about like Spiro wants. I don't suspect Frank so lynching him means losing the game to me. Being eager beaver about the lynch is rather dangerous especially when you don't have a real case.

We don't lose if there is no lynch today. If there are 4 mafia, they will be one short of majority even after a successful nightkill tonight. That makes us statistically more likely to hit a mafia tomorrow when we are at LYLO, not that we shouldn't try today (we should, it'll make actually succeeding tomorrow easier), but it's not the end of the world if we don't. I've stated who I suspect at this time. Those are the lynches I'll commit to today.

Bringing me up in regards to MYLO is a pretty good blame-shifting tactic, I'll give you that Monk.

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I think we can, at least, come up with a compromise between us.

unvote Spiro, vote Topsummoner

I defy anyone to believe that a Villager Top would genuinely think that we've only three mafia. Failing that, he says that if we lynch wrong today, we lose. It's true, but hilariously misleading: if we lynch wrong today or tomorrow, we lose, so delaying a day is pretty pointless. Why does he want to? It's quite simple: they need but one other vote, a disgracefully easy task at this stage. He says it creates hesitation; it seems to have only actually done so for himself.

I don't want to leave it tomorrow, I'm just being realistic. You're jumping to conclusions an awful amount today and putting words in my mouth; acting like you're the authority on what I "would have" said or what I "actually mean" with my posts... it just comes off as trying to manipulate the popular opinion on me.

You keep flailing your vote around at everyone who disagrees with you today too... Sparky, Spiro, now me. Comes across as rather overly defensive, especially voting for Sparky which I just can't wrap my head around, what with how you weakly justified it after being called out.

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Once again, I am willing to switch to Top for the sake of a lynch today. What say anyone else?

Thr? Atrsgorn, Market, Muffin, Bueller? Bueller?

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@Frank I'm really not sure what game you're playing but you're logic that Pyro was acting scummy (yet not actually mafia) therefore I am mafia doesn't make any sense at all. And it seems a bit late for throwing votes around to source information when we have days of evidence that suggest to me Sig and Top are mafia.

@Muffin What the hell are you playing at? It's like your imitating one of those troll roles we used to have in legends mafia where you could only post in riddles or with pictures or whatever. I'm not sure what your game is but you could at least explain your vote for Frank.

I thought it before today but I'm even more sure now that Sig and Top are mafia. I'm getting the feeling more and more everytime they both post that there is a divide and conquer strategy at work here. They seem to be playing off each other far too much.

We need to lynch or we're going to lose anyway - that much is pretty obvious. I'm going for Sighence for now.

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Guys. I don't think that casting tentative votes is good enough. 'willing to switch my vote' isn't where we should be right now.

My vote for muffin stands. I'm certain he's mafia. This is not a tentative vote.
I think we need to lynch the one we're certain about and we will earn ourselves another day.

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