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I see what this infographic is doing, but there are so many holes to punch in it.

A lot of these are outside of his control as president, with admittance that he said the same vote-for-me promises crap that every other candidate says. For the inflation rate, blame the FED (although Ron Paul has done it enough) for screwing with investment rates. Most of the money issues are Congress's fault, not the President. Only the House of Reps can create a money bill. The "universal" (in name only) health care bill and stimulus package were main pushings of Obama, but you still have the Congress which has to approve all of this, especially in the case of the health care industry.

I'm not a fan of Obama, but it is extremely irresponsible to misrepresent data for political goals.

edit- Just wanna clarify that I'm not attacking you at all, just the people who made this.

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Awesome sig made by Goten!

I guess we now know that the shelf life of public humiliation is just under two months.

Blackmage already summed this up.

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Most of the things on that list ARE his fault though.
eg. deficit spending, healthcare premiums are a direct result of something he did, unemployment.

These are thing directly linked to things he's supported.

The stimulus.. 800BILLION dollars was meant to "prevent over 8% unemployment" so he promised.
So what did we get for this cost?
Mind you this is enough money to buy everyone in the world a good bike.
Enough money to buy over 20000 solid gold Sherman tanks.

We got.... 9% unemployment?? lolwut?

Then on top of that you get "GREEN ENERGY" subsidies like Solyndra.
There's 500mil we'll never see again...
And Solyndra isn't the only one other solar companies crapped out too but got our money.

Some of it went into public works projects... and some supported crap which makes no difference.
So nearly a Trillion dollars down the drain and all it got us was a collapse in the market
and a degraded credit rating for the nation...

You literally could have done a better job burying the money sent to Solyndra.
That scandal still unraveling at the seams...
It's a great example of how green energy subsidies are a waste of time and money.
Solyndra was a company that couldn't competently make it in the market.
Not only was it in a State that hates making jobs and taxes every little thing into oblivion (CA)
but it's solar power... the money pit of energy since the 50's.

It's harder to link Obama's performance to inflation and stuff like that.
But at the same time.... 4% vs half a percent is hard to ignore.

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Ouch...

Dakota.

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Znath's got it right.

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Frankly, if hundreds of millions of people decide to depend on one person/a handful of people to secure their quality of life, they should be glad they're not actively starving to death...

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I'm not saying he isn't linked. I'm attacking the infographic's assumption that Obama is literally the reason for this. Congress is who actually has to pass it.

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And he has to sign it.

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Only if it makes it to him (short version of me agreeing with Blackmage). Don't take it as defense for Obama since I never really supported him by any means. While we're at it, want to include the Judicial Branch into this?

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He's signed several laws that had direct impacts on almost everything on that list..

I was only judging based off of the things I'm aware he had an impact on.

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Gas was under two bucks in '09? Huh. Time flies.

Presidency isn't the only role in the American government, we have two other branches. While we do elect a single man (or possible woman in the future, but that's beside the point) to reside the executive branch, the judicial and legislation have just as important a role (checks/balances, etc). The other two branches make up hundreds of people, and while they don't individually have the same static power as the executive, they make up the rest of the government. And could equally be to blame.
I don't usually like to blame the President for the problems in America, and frankly it just seems wrong to do so. I'm not huge on politics and wouldn't know the EXACT power of his job, but the way I see it he only makes up a third of the government. To me, the President is somewhat of a scapegoat. A lot of people seem to just target him easier because he's a single person, while we could easily target a single member of the Senate for going along with a "bad law".

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Awesome

What he said. There are hundreds of other politicians you should be angry at, as well as Obama. The president does not make bills. That is my problem. Yes, he signed on them, but this infographic exploits people who don't understand the former point.

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Of course the president isn't the sole person to blame, but the president is typically aware of what bills go before him. Once they get to him, they're his fault for signing them. He is not forced to sign anything. Don't forget that the president and his administration definitely uses their influence. The Executive Branch is not simply benign, waiting for stuff to happen; it acts and contributes to pushing a bill through.

The Judicial Branch can't really do anything until it effects cause the bill to be unconstitutional, and that fact is proven via lawsuits.

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Just get money out of politics and what Blackmage said.

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Props to steve-loser on the old sig.

Isn't politics all about exploiting people who don't understand the big picture?

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It was made to, over a 10 year span, save 900k-2.3 mil jobs. 1 year ago, factcheck.org stated that it's "[i]ncreased the number of people employed by between 1.4 million and 3.3 million" and "[l]owered the unemployment rate by between 0.7 percentage points and 1.8 percentage points." So without the stimulus package, we'd be seeing 10-11% instead.



Yes, because that was totally Obama's fault. Not big businesses who invested more in foreign countries than our own. The problem here was that China came in and said, "Hey, we can do it cheaper. Like everything else."



Here is an actual list of what was invested in, rather than "crap that makes no difference." I think everything there does indeed make a difference. Oh, and don't pretend that not doing this would've led us to economic prosperity. The plan had its effect, no matter how much you try to marginalize it.

The Congressional Budget Office projected the stimulus package would increase GDP growth by 1.4%-3.8% by the end of 2009. (Note: This did not mean GDP growth would be up1.4%-3.8%. It just meant the economy would be that much better, even if it remained in recession. Actually, the CBO projected the economy would contract 3% for 2009.) In fact, the economy contracted 2.6% in 2009, and expanded 2.6% in 2010. Source.



Yes, solar energy is the devil's magic. Any hardworking, patriotic American would only rely on dependable fossil fuel.

I'm glad we had such keen eye to pick out all these flaws, with amazing postcognitive abilities. If only the people who had been evaluating this company since 2005, when the original energy law came into existence, had those powers on their team. They would've seen this from a mile away in their years of meticulous analysis. After it happened.



Obama just loves his inflation. If only he hadn't increased the standard of living in China or created record-breaking harsh winters to give us poor crop yields. Damn that Obama!

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Reliable, cheap solar power is probably several decades to go.

If you think of it this way.
A solar research professor could either pay 5 cents per kW to do his research assuming the lab uses heavy machinery plenty of test equipment, the bills will probably run in the area of 1000 per month.
and then hire 5 students to aid the research at around lets say 500 per month each. The students could then get great work experience through college and the research gets done fairly quickly.

Under a carbon tax or environment where solar and wind are subsidized power then costs 8-10 cents per kW.
This rate is consistent with price hikes from states that heavily subsidize "green" energy.
The bill goes then to 2000 per month. And then he can only hire 3 student assistants. The research time increases almost by double.

Or if you look by the cost of energy in eco-states like California where there are ZERO coal plants.
15 cents per kW. The bill then jumps to 3000 per month. In that case the professor pays 4 student's wages toward power alone. With 1 student assistant, the research slows to a crawl.

Energy cost goes hand in hand with prosperity and economic progress.

So why not cut back on the wasted money into solar and wind subsidies. We can have cheap power for a while and in that time we can look into sources of clean and potentially cheaper energy. If solar was given a competitive chance, maybe we'd see higher than the pitiful 8% efficiency they currently trickle out. As far as open space goes. A solar plant takes up the space over 5 times the amount that coal ever does INCLUDING the space taken by coal mines. This is due to the inefficiency of solar cells.

Another problem the economy has run into is energy costs at the hand of the Obama administration. This is why he's losing the vote in Appalachia. Since he couldn't pass his carbon taxes, he's gone through the EPA. Obama has signed several executive orders to kill mining operations. Then the EPA regulations throw more fines and restrictions on mines and power plants. Where do you think companies will pass that cost?

Billions of dollars are wasted on these regulations and billions more are lost due to the progress that is restricted by expensive energy.

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