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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:50 pm 
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his sanity will be revealed with my death anyways.


So i am sane. Because what you should've said is "his insanity..." because you believe i am either insane or you know i am correct.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:52 pm 
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The flavour of detective is referred to as his 'sanity'.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:54 pm 
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my short 1 line vote on kikori needed to be posted before anyone came closer to killing top.
these are my points:


"okay with spread votes"
the point of noting everyones votes was to CLEARLY show that the only thing kikori is doing was firing accusations all over the place.he is a loose cannon.

"notoriously "on the fence" as possible"
so you believe me to be well known for being on the fence? have i really built up a reputation for being on the fence?
if so, then your accusation shows i am acting NORALLY! i have been village in the last 3 games, and my actions are no different now.

"I don't like day one lynches, they're rarely justified"
because what do you have to go on??? look what happened with scar!!
in UPICK6, everyone boarded a train, and that ended in the mafias favour.



and the last thing about your first post today
"(Also, as I read your post after trying to preview mine: It's kind of funny that you limit your ideas to "forgetful mafia" alone.)"
is because out of every single game i have ever played, the only time the mafia have NOT night killed, was when they forgot to PM in Upick6

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 2:56 pm 
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the only time the mafia have NOT night killed, was when they forgot to PM in Upick6


Inactivity is a likely culprit in a Runevillage Mafia game, but bear in mind the possibility of a Role Blocker, for some reason they chose to no kill, or even a Doctor making a successful save without Monk telling us.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 3:40 pm 
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Godders, I don't believe your claim for a second. Poor playing to try and come out with a fake roleclaim of detective this early in the game.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 3:41 pm 
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He's scum. I'm the doctor. I protected myself last night, and will continue to do so. Or will I protect Godders? Who knows? OHOHOHOHO

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 3:45 pm 
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No you're not, because I'm the doctor. I asked Monk about protecting myself and was told I cannot so that's a lie too (for what it's worth)

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 3:50 pm 
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Other relevant thoughts: the mafia almost certainly was roleblocked. I protected myself, and received a PM from Monk that I was protected. I PMed him back, asking if I had been attacked. I had not. Assuming that I am the only doctor in this game, the mafia were most likely roleblocked, as everyone in this game has been at least marginally active.

If I die, I'm sure Kikori/Doc will carry on my crusade. Look to lynch Market Man, and possibly Ex Rex.

GODDERS. If Top turns up as scum, which I'm sure he will fake-claiming doctor, you'll know you're sane. Investigate someone else. NOT me, NOT kikori, NOT Market Man.

Them's my parting words.

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You're absolutely full of garbage. Or Monk's messing with us. I'm the Doctor, and I CAN protect myself. I lied a little however, I cannot protect the same person two nights in a row.

You sure are in a hurry to be changing your votes. You know how I play. I WOULD NOT risk a fake counterclaim to see you lynched, only to see myself lynched the following day.

It's possible there is more than one doctor...but given the evidence against you, you're most likely to be scum.

What can we do? Unvote Let Godders investigate himself tomorrow night. I will protect him. I will die at night, but this game will be much closer to a village win.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 3:57 pm 
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You sure are in a hurry to be changing your votes. You know how I play. I WOULD NOT risk a fake counterclaim to see you lynched, only to see myself lynched the following day.

It's possible there is more than one doctor...but given the evidence against you, you're most likely to be scum.


In a game with an Insane Detective I guess it's certainly possible Doctor sanities could be thrown in too. But those are just straight-up unfair to the town except in variants designed around them.

For those who don't know them: Doctor sanities

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Paranoid Doctor - Protects AND roleblocks (essentially a Jailkeeper who thinks he's a Doctor.)

Quack Doctor - Kills target.

Weak Doctor - Dies if protects Mafia, otherwise protects normally.


One of the two of us could be Naive or something, but I think it's far more likely you're just lying.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 4:00 pm 
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In what the hell world would I false claim doctor to (hopefully) see you lynched...only to be undoubtedly found out as scum upon your death, and subsequently lynched?

As I said. We'll let Godders investigate himself. I'll die. Then everyone can take my words left behind as truth.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 4:02 pm 
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The world in which you surviving to Day Three makes you look incredibly suspicious regardless, is my best guess.

At the cost of your own life you get the town to lynch their own Doctor and let your mafia subsequently kill the Detective before he can make any more investigations? Seems like a good trade to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 4:05 pm 
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I don't mean to sound arrogant...but MY death as a mafioso is a steep price to pay for your death and Godders' death, with Doc and Kikori still running around.

It's strange that you outline this plan and point to me as the mastermind behind it...when it could be *your* plan.

What exactly is wrong with my plan concerning Godders? YOU want to see me lynched NOW. I don't want to see you lynched without further evidence. Though you're certainly digging your hole.

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PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 4:09 pm 
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So we've got competing doctor claims and a detective claim of some variety, interesting. Am I the only one that thinks its highly unlikely to have 2 doctors in a game with only 10 EDIT: 11 players?

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PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 4:18 pm 
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So we've got competing doctor claims and a detective claim of some variety, interesting. Am I the only one that thinks its highly unlikely to have 2 doctors in a game with only 10 players?


No you're not, which is why I'm still voting for Lander.

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What exactly is wrong with my plan concerning Godders? YOU want to see me lynched NOW. I don't want to see you lynched without further evidence. Though you're certainly digging your hole.


If we don't lynch you today, then in two days the town is out their Doctor and Detective against the full mafia. They'll probably lynch you tomorrow, but that still puts them in a bad spot.

If we do lynch you, then they have tomorrow free to look elsewhere.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia XVIII: Return of the Roman Numerals: Day 2
PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 4:34 pm 
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Your failure to even consider that there might be two doctors is alarming. I gave you your chance to repent and figure this out the most logical way possible; the way that would most benefit the town in the event that we BOTH are telling the truth. You're not having any of it, and neither am I anymore. You're a liar, and that's all there is to it.

You know damn well I wouldn't risk a fake doctor claim, and if that were such a thing that I'd consider as mafia, I'd ask one of my brethren to take that fall if they were willing.

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PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 4:37 pm 
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If we don't lynch you today, then in two days the town is out their Doctor and Detective against the full mafia. They'll probably lynch you tomorrow, but that still puts them in a bad spot.

If we do lynch you, then they have tomorrow free to look elsewhere.


Is it we, or is it they?

They, as in the town, as in the faction you're not a part of?

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They as in the rest of the town after I inevitably die tonight. Saying 'we' would be silly because who else would the mafia kill? I'm a dead man.

Are we nit-picking now?

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PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 5:37 pm 
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Basic mistakes at the level of language can be just as damning as other scum tells.

I was genuinely confused for a moment, however.

Your/my/our fate/s is/are in the hands of the rest of the town now.

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PostPosted: April 25th, 2012, 5:48 pm 
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This is absolutely ridiculous.

Let me a address a few things:

Scar - In the same post says "I think MarketMan is a villager" and then votes for him. He is either an IDIOT, of scum.

Godders - first post of the day is 'morning'. Not very useful, however the fact is, with no deaths, if we were to kill off TopSummoner and he isn't mafia, we can assume that Godders is a mafia. I'm not buying the whole insane detective.

Kikori - I'm still suspicious of him. Very much so. However right now it would be foolish to attack him any further amidst all else that is happening. FoS

On an extra note, to further my belief that Kikori is scum, he is a veteran, posting about how the mafia could have chosen not to kill that night, and then posting how a veteran wouldn't do this. I think, considering the confusion that has arisen due to what he has done and all these (some fake) roleclaims, he has achieved what he set out to do. I'm just not buying what he says.

Lander - well, yesterday I didn't think you were scum. Today, I'm of the same opinion. Since the detective says top is scum, and you say he is too, unless BOTH of you are mafia (in which case, we've found 2 of them!), I'm currently inclined to believe you. Obviously, mafia are likely to kill you tonight, and if top is doctor, you will be lynched tomorrow WITHOUT FAIL!

This brings me to Topsummoner.

A detective says you are mafia. You claim Doctor, but so does someone else. The best of all the options we have, in my eyes, is to lynch you. Tests the detective and Lander, both who I believe, and lynches someone who I believe is scum.

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Oh, and if someone this is an ingenius, but REALLY CONFUSING, ploy by the mafia to all randomly claim roles and throw everything to the wolves to work out, and we all fall for it... well done I guess.

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Gut feeling regarding these two, but I'm going with Top so Lander

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