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 Post subject: Re: ELECTION MAFIA - Day Two - CASUALTY
PostPosted: January 14th, 2017, 7:54 pm 
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Why does he keep pressing the claim that he's mafia?

Occam's razor. Jaron is scum.

I'm open for voting Sparky, since I believe he will not purposely lynch a villager. But he's already announced that he has a secret target in mind, contrary to his early argument that we vote for who to lynch afterward, and frankly I don't put much faith in his reasoning at this point. I'd love to know where he currently stands on my alignment.


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 Post subject: Re: ELECTION MAFIA - Day Two - CASUALTY
PostPosted: January 14th, 2017, 8:01 pm 
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The rapidity of the non-me votes is puzzling. Among you, I count Illuminati. Sparky, I would, because of the election vote pattern, kill Jaron, like I was going to. I don't know what else to do than vote to elect you. A kill is possible mafia and at least information.

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 Post subject: Re: ELECTION MAFIA - Day Two - CASUALTY
PostPosted: January 14th, 2017, 8:31 pm 
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The rapidity of the non-me votes is puzzling. Among you, I count Illuminati.

Yeah, Rory's post is ringing alarm bells to me. In fact, call me erratic again, but I'd now put money on a Lander/Rory tag-team. A few things:

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I'm not understanding something with Jaron's posts. Why does he keep pressing the claim that he's mafia? Because as far as I can tell, it's because some people believe he's scummy. I'm not buying it.
I do get that this game is about suspicion, but still.

A quick browse of posts D2 shows me that tau believes him to be mafia, he wants to take Jaron's word for it that Jaron is mafia. I'm not sure what sort of play this would be, openly admitting you're mafia.

He knows the wind is blowing towards a Jaron lynch, but if he were scum would also know Jaron is innocent. This nicely sets him up as trying to defend Jaron. It's also a little tautologous, adding heft to the post without any new lines of thought to mis-step with.

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Lander thinks [Jaron] should be lynched if we vote a president.

He pointed this out but didn't choose to elaborate, despite apparently not agreeing. Smells like a low-key distancing tactic: implicating his fellow scum Lander in the kill of Jaron, while keeping himself clean and able to point to this later on.

Also note that he previously tried to lighten pressure on Lander in a very non-committal manner:
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Landerpurex is pinging my scumdar by virtue of lack of contribution.

That's interesting, because I'd say he's contributed a bit more than me. My posts up until now have been pretty flavor-ish and don't add much at all. I can see on the over-reaching scale of things, yeah, he hasn't put in a whole lot of input (at the time of Paidea making that post), but I just find it interesting that you haven't mentioned anything about me either.

In line with that, due to my previous call of Jaron/Lander, I would personally lynch Lander as the common scum candidate.


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PostPosted: January 14th, 2017, 8:39 pm 
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Spirographed - 1 - tau_xi
SparkyAMS - 5 - Saten Ruiko, SparkyAMS, Landerpurex, Rory, Spirographed

The votes are in.
Step forward, SparkyAMS. By the power invested in me by some guy, I hereby pronounce you official Village President for... *checks watch*... the evening. You may continue to discuss matters or announce your decision as you please.

SparkyAMS has been elected President. The day deadline has been extended to 10:30 AM EST on Sunday the 15th.

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 Post subject: Re: ELECTION MAFIA - Day Two - CASUALTY
PostPosted: January 14th, 2017, 8:40 pm 
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My fellow citizens, thank you! (and the electoral college) (and my secret super pac)

As my first act as your president, the peoples president, I vow to vote for who you wish.
I do still personally believe that Saten is a fellow citizen, but your will be done if it comes to that.

@tau, My "I'm going to vote for REDACTED" was a straight up joke. That's why there's no name, not because I have a name in mind.

4 MORE YEARS :D

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 Post subject: Re: ELECTION MAFIA - Day Two - CASUALTY
PostPosted: January 14th, 2017, 10:21 pm 
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My vote is Lander or Spiro.

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His logic is flawless. Topsummoner

I concur. We must lynch him now for the sake of the metagame, we MUST teach people that they can't go around claiming "anniversary" and expect leniency. Topsummoner.


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 Post subject: Re: ELECTION MAFIA - Day Two - CASUALTY
PostPosted: January 14th, 2017, 10:33 pm 
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tau_xi wrote:
Landerpurex wrote:
At any rate, I'll ask one more time, very succinctly and clearly: tau, I had made two posts in the game and you had decided you were suspicious of me. Why? Unless I'm missing something, you have yet to give any real reasons other than my first post D2 was late to your liking.

Actually, this is the first time you've asked. Nice attempt to make me look more suspicious, though.

On D1, you committed as little as technically possible:
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Then, as you mentioned, your first D2 post is what tasted sour to me. Let's look at it again:
Landerpurex wrote:
Welp.

Goes without saying the best course of action is to discuss who we think is mafia, come to a consensus for a "lynch", and elect someone that will carry out said lynch.

Also remember that the extra 12 hours added is arguably the town's biggest weapon this game.

So who killed jack? JARON????

A useless combination of serious-but-shallow analysis followed by a joke. Moreover, I hadn't noticed before now, but making Jaron the target of your joke could have been an attempt to render any suspicious things he says with a veneer of "we're all just joking".

Everything you've posted since has been carefully considered misdirection. And notably, as raised by Sparky and Spiro above, despite all your talk, it appears that you're doing your best to stagnate the town. In your most recent post:
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Lastly, I believe it is very dangerous to elect president/s who have contributed little to the actual discussion. Tomorrow consider voting for me, paidea, or sparky. It's hard to tell their intentions and alignment when they have barely posted anything of substance and sparky's train of thought, while long and winding, is very valid. I think it'll be more important to elect someone we can trust versus someone who has agreed to carry out a specific lynch for reasons that have been stated.

Why not vote for yourself, Paidea or Sparky today, since there is still a little breathing room? What harm would it do, apart from possibly getting something done, if you plan to vote for one of them tomorrow?


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I have no worldly idea why I am one of your two top picks.....


I'm sorry, I thought this was enough. You even quoted it in your next post, restated your suspicion, but did not get into any specifics.

tau_xi wrote:
Landerpurex wrote:
tau_xi wrote:
Landerpurex wrote:
Welp.

Goes without saying the best course of action is to discuss who we think is mafia, come to a consensus for a "lynch", and elect someone that will carry out said lynch.

Also remember that the extra 12 hours added is arguably the town's biggest weapon this game.

So who killed jack? JARON????

A day late with your incisive analysis, don't ya think?

For now, I selflessly vote tau_xi for president, but would also elect Paidea.


Uh, no? :^_^:

By baselessly accusing half the players, it seems you have 'kikori kid' syndrome. I have no worldly idea why I am one of your two top picks but the hilarious thing is, besides jumping from one conclusion to the next at a break neck pace, you asked Sparky why he nominated Spiro, got no answer, then 4-5 posts later nominated him yourself. Erratic play, baseless accusations, while accusing other players of the same thing. Tut tut.

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So far we have Sparky, Spiro, and Tau voting for Spiro and not one reason given for it.

In fact, tau was saying how he believed Spiro was scum and then immediately voted for him. So as of now, tau is numero uno on my suspicious list.

I'm not erratic or inconsistent, simply unafraid to share a working hypothesis. And on the point of Landerpurex being scum, I have not wavered. Perhaps I should have kept all other speculation to myself to save face, but I see no fun in that. In regards to Spiro, I am unsure about him, but voted on the basis of his promise to lynch Jaron (assuming it would look bad for him if he went against that promise) and to see what would happen.

I'm worried we won't reach consensus on who to elect (or lynch, for that matter). I also want to hear from Rory.


Nearly every single one of your posts is contradictory, and you seem cognizant of this, yet you keep on going...

Nothing I've said is carefully guided misdirection. I've been very open with my thoughts and choices, and frankly, rather consistent. The same cannot be said for you. More worrisome is your twisting of my posts to fit your agenda as me as scum, and frankly ignoring my 'soft' questioning initially of why you thought I was scum is worrisome as well. Quite frankly, it's very rare that someone outright accuses someone else of being mafia, twice over, without explaining their reasoning, even if it is flimsy.

I still believe there's a rather strong possibility that Jaron is mafia. But with his recent OOC posts I am less worried. I am more worried about tau, and frankly, Rory not being able to keep my name out of his posts in very interesting indeed. I voted for sparky because I trust him more than Spiro.

I say kill jaron if you want, I think his recent rebuttals should afford him another day at least. Take a shot in the dark, kill tau, kill me, kill Rory, do what you think is best for the town.

Interestingly a few vocal people seem to think I am scum, if you want to test that theory I am all for it, you will quickly find out how wrong they are and can hopefully reassess.

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 Post subject: Re: ELECTION MAFIA - Day Two - CASUALTY
PostPosted: January 14th, 2017, 10:44 pm 
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Landerpurex wrote:
Nearly every single one of your posts is contradictory, and you seem cognizant of this, yet you keep on going...

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I'm not erratic or inconsistent, simply unafraid to share a working hypothesis. And on the point of Landerpurex being scum, I have not wavered. Perhaps I should have kept all other speculation to myself to save face, but I see no fun in that.


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PostPosted: January 14th, 2017, 10:58 pm 
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tau_xi wrote:
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Nearly every single one of your posts is contradictory, and you seem cognizant of this, yet you keep on going...

tau_xi wrote:
I'm not erratic or inconsistent, simply unafraid to share a working hypothesis. And on the point of Landerpurex being scum, I have not wavered. Perhaps I should have kept all other speculation to myself to save face, but I see no fun in that.


This response doesn't surprise me in the least.

I can say you are contradictory, you can say you're talking out loud with an organic, changing point of view. Could be a cop out, could be the truth. Only the best mafiosos talk as much as you.

It seems we are at an impasse.

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PostPosted: January 14th, 2017, 11:00 pm 
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Landerpurex wrote:
I can say you are contradictory, you can say you're talking out loud with an organic, changing point of view.

tau_xi wrote:
And on the point of Landerpurex being scum, I have not wavered.


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 Post subject: Re: ELECTION MAFIA - Day Two - CASUALTY
PostPosted: January 14th, 2017, 11:02 pm 
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Congratulations, SparkyAMS! As the person that started the "vote Sparky" train, I take full credit for your successful election. I am happy to report that I've been in contact with a Mr. Jimmy Image, and he'd be happy to be your Vice President if you'll have him.

As for MY vote, clearly it is not for myself! That being said, I'll understand if you do end up killing me. Gotta get those bad guys, after all.

I don't really hold much of an opinion otherwise, though. Tau's whole "being the 4th person to vote out of 8 + not trying to get yourself killed means you're splitting the vote" thing still irks me heavily. I can kinda see where the Lander suspicion is coming from, but really the biggest suspicion I'd have on him is because he hopped on the Sparky-electorate train without posting any reasoning whatsoever, not the other stuff Tau's rambling about. I'm assuming his reasoning there would be this prior post:
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Tomorrow consider voting for me, paidea, or sparky. It's hard to tell their intentions and alignment when they have barely posted anything of substance and sparky's train of thought, while long and winding, is very valid.

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PostPosted: January 14th, 2017, 11:05 pm 
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PostPosted: January 14th, 2017, 11:27 pm 
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Yeah I don't go to cabinet meetings, I hear all that happen in them is infighting between two people...

SO

That's like, 2ish for Saten, 2ish for Tau, and 2ish for Lander, and like a .5 vote on Spiro.

This is not to helpful!

My vote in this case is just a -1 to Saten, so that makes it a vote for Tau or Lander.

Should I flip a coin? For everyone's next post just put your final vote.

Fair warning, I'm going to bed soon and cant post in time in the morning, so this is happening tonight.

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PostPosted: January 14th, 2017, 11:46 pm 
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I've heard Obama quoted as saying that problems only get to his desk because no one else can solve them. Make your decision, President Sparky.


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PostPosted: January 15th, 2017, 12:17 am 
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Well, I've ran out of time.

The coin, has been flipped

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PostPosted: January 15th, 2017, 1:03 am 
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PostPosted: January 15th, 2017, 1:03 am 
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"My first (and last) decree as President; bring me the head of tau_xi."

Well said, Mr President. Bring him forward, executioner.

tau_xi is hung from the rope. After a brief moment of silence, the deceased is thoroughly searched and examined. Background checks are run. In a few short minutes, the verdict is out.

I'm afraid there's nothing to suggest tau_xi was anything but an ordinary Elector. Retire to your chambers hopeful, though. The wheels of our victory have been put into motion.

tau_xi - Elector, Lynched Day Two

Night Two begins. The deadline is 2:04 PM EST on Monday, January 17th.

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PostPosted: January 16th, 2017, 6:45 pm 
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Apologies for the late end to the night, I was preoccupied.

The electors arrive to see Spirographed's body being carried away. He looks much the same as Jackstick the previous morning, but this time with the eye brand on his right hand.

Spirographed - Elector, Killed Night Two

It is a tragedy, but we have no time to waste on sentiment. Action wins wars.

I am obliged to remind you that SparkyAMS is ineligible for presidency today.

Day Three begins. Six players remain, four votes to elect. The deadline is 7:45 PM EST on Thursday, January 19th.

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 Post subject: Re: ELECTION MAFIA - Day Three - MOTION
PostPosted: January 16th, 2017, 8:13 pm 
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Alright, I think that because of tau's suspicion of me, I should at least explain my skepticism. I'm not entirely sold on Jaron being mafia because I followed him night 1. He didn't visit anyone. That's not entirely conclusive though, as I think it only takes one mafia to kill, and not both of them. But again, I wasn't entirely sold on it.

I'm role-claiming FBI just to make it clear. My role allows me to follow one person at night. With that being said, I followed Paidea last night, and he visited Komoe. I hope I'm not making a mistake by calling you out here Paidea, if you are town, but it's the best thing I've got to on right now.

Here, I'll quote my role pm. Just kidding

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 Post subject: Re: ELECTION MAFIA - Day Three - MOTION
PostPosted: January 16th, 2017, 9:13 pm 
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It's good that you claimed since I believe today is MYLO. Normally I would advocate that we Abstain but from your claim and what I know, we should Lynch today.

I'm a Census Taker, and I target someone to learn who they're registered with. Basically, a Cop.

N1 targeted tau_xi. Although I hinted at him being Town, I didn't feel it was necessary to out myself to save him in case there's not a protective role out there.

Since you claimed Tracker, it's probably even less likely there's a Doctor or Bodyguard out there as that would make the Town too powerful, unless the Mafia has some really strong powers. Of course, it's possible that you're actually a Stalker, but that's up for discussion.

Last night I did indeed cop Komoe and he's also Town. So assuming that you're a Tracker, the Mafia is within {Landerpurex, Sparky, Jaron}. Since I am of the opinion there are 2 scum, we should Lynch with 2/3 odds today.

Going to vote Komoe since he's the only person I'm 100â„… sure is Town (besides myself).

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I concur. We must lynch him now for the sake of the metagame, we MUST teach people that they can't go around claiming "anniversary" and expect leniency. Topsummoner.


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