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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Revival V: Death To Be Expected - DAY TWO
PostPosted: September 30th, 2016, 4:12 pm 
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Apologies I've been rather busy the last couple of days so didn't have a chance to say much. I was (and still am) completely bemused by Jarons antics.

I'm tired of being targeted for something I always do in the game regardless of my allegiance which is state what I'm thinking - so what if it's obvious I like to state my position clearly.

There really is very little we can go on besides Jarons nonsense. Day 2 is usually when Pyro decides to derail the entire game until he dies so I'm waiting for him to start something.

What actual justification do you have for me being right at the right wing of your chart, Frank?

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PostPosted: September 30th, 2016, 4:20 pm 
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I agree with Frank, let's get a claim out of Pyro, that usually goes pretty well. :^)
Frank never mentioned asking Pyro to roleclaim. Which part are you agreeing with, exactly?

Besides the obvious role-fishing, I'd rather see you claim than Pyro. Your claims have gone just as smoothly lately (read: resulting in forfeiture). Might as well start digging your hole now, you know what I mean?


I agree with the voting for Pyro idea he had is all, getting him to claim is my own idea.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Revival V: Death To Be Expected - DAY TWO
PostPosted: September 30th, 2016, 4:21 pm 
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I'm just a normal citizen this time.

Sorry to disappoint.

If you want to Day 2 Pyro Lynch, though, you're not going to lose a power role so I'm not going to defend myself given that lynching me is better than lynching a power role.

That being said, lynching me is worse than lynching a mafia. Jaron is just causing confusion and his "joking" role claim is still occuring in Day 2. I'd say that's a hinderance. Jack also posting just for the sake of staying alive is also a concern. Without him actually putting any input in, it's harder to get a lynch. We would be better off with inactive players getting mod killed.

I'll take a look at the vote patterns in a bit and see if I can figure anything out from there.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Revival V: Death To Be Expected - DAY TWO
PostPosted: September 30th, 2016, 5:28 pm 
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1. Aragorn
2. Top - Pyro3000
3. Sparky - Jaron
4. Pyro - Jaron
5. Jack
6. Jaron - claiming mafia - Aragorn
7. Monk - proven innocent - Aragorn
8. Frank - Pyro3000

That makes a tie split 3 ways.

What strikes me as interesting is that Top and Frank both voted for me when there were two players at two votes and I was at zero. This splits the vote, but neither of them had been under any suspicion or pressure. This leads me to believe that both of them are Citizens.

With 3 people at two votes this leads me to believe that it is unlikely that Aragorn and Jack are mafia TOGETHER. Still highly possible for either to be mafia, but I'm curious if Jack's "posting to not get modkilled" post had something to it. Perhaps he isn't contributing in the day because he's got his mind focused on the night phase. I'm going to assume he's one of our power roles and dismiss him as a threat for now. I also think that Jack would have voted for either Aragorn or Jaron in order to get them closer to a lynch.

This leaves Aragorn as someone that hasn't voted but HAS contributed in the day phase.

Jaron started the day off with 2 votes on him. I feel like the mafia should have tried to jump on him. Yet he sits at two.

I would actually say that any player with only 2 votes on them when it only takes 4 to kill should be viewed as highly suspicious. Clearly this means I'm extremely suspicious as well.

So, the most likely mafia candidates at this time are Aragorn, Jaron, and myself. Note that I'm not nearly as confident about this as I have been in past games. Aragorn doesn't really scream out to me as guilty currently. Given that I'm rather certain I'm just citizen, I'm stuck with Jaron. Even with Aragorn being suspicious just for having 2 votes and not be dead, it doesn't leave much to work with. Aragorn and Jack are the only ones that haven't voted. Aragorn isn't about to self vote, and I don't see Jack trying to seal the lynch. That all being said, I don't think that there are two mafia among the three being voted on.

So I guess we're currently at an impass unless two people want to switch their vote to the same person.

If I survive tonight I really want to stress to the doctor: don't bother protecting me this game. I'm nothing special, and your abilities are better placed elsewhere.

I can only hope that the detective survives long enough to bring us some more information.

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PostPosted: September 30th, 2016, 7:16 pm 
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Jaron started the day off with 2 votes on him. I feel like the mafia should have tried to jump on him. Yet he sits at two.

I would actually say that any player with only 2 votes on them when it only takes 4 to kill should be viewed as highly suspicious. Clearly this means I'm extremely suspicious as well.


Mm, I don't know dude. I think you underestimate the caliber of player we have. No mafia worth their salt is going to bandwagon onto an early lynch so blatantly.

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PostPosted: September 30th, 2016, 7:20 pm 
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Anyways we've squeezed your thoughts out of you anyways so that's something. Unvote

Aragorn's play doesn't seem unusual to me at all. He's usually pretty quiet until the pivotal moment no matter which alignment he is.

Jackstick, acknowledging that you're only posting to avoid being modkilled doesn't make you active breh.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Revival V: Death To Be Expected - DAY TWO
PostPosted: September 30th, 2016, 7:39 pm 
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What actual justification do you have for me being right at the right wing of your chart, Frank?


Do you really want me to give away my trade secrets? It's not really a secret. Anyone who either suggested or bought into the idea of the jester was moved up a few notches on my chart. That your posts have a subtle mafia feel to them. It's how I read the game. I don't profess to be certain in your mafiality... After all, I was willing to kill Pyro before you.

Between Top and Pyro I believe have a high degree of finding a mafioso. Top's play does not strike me as village aligned.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Revival V: Death To Be Expected - DAY TWO
PostPosted: September 30th, 2016, 8:13 pm 
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Day 2 is usually when Pyro decides to derail the entire game until he dies so I'm waiting for him to start something.
Waiting on something unlikely to happen is the best tactic in a Mafia game! It usually ends days with no lynches, and then I get to shoot people!
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I would actually say that any player with only 2 votes on them when it only takes 4 to kill should be viewed as highly suspicious.
Dear Pyro, I must point out the critical flaw in your logic, much as it pains me--it takes 5 votes to lynch. There are 8 of us alive. Don't worry, I understand how you might have missed that, given that our dear host Spiro didn't mention it. But now you know!

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Revival V: Death To Be Expected - DAY TWO
PostPosted: September 30th, 2016, 8:23 pm 
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Oh, I thought it only had to be 50%.

I guess that throws out majority of what I said.

I stand by thinking that Top, Frank, and Jackstick are likely not murderers, but that's really all I have now.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Revival V: Death To Be Expected - DAY TWO
PostPosted: September 30th, 2016, 8:38 pm 
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I uh, don't actually think Jaron is mafia anymore! Like at all. Unvote.

I mean like, giving tips on how not to let the mafia win?
Suggesting who may or may not be Doctor?

It's like everything he says is real sound advice, with a giant sarcastic NOPE at the end of each sentence.

So I have no idea yet who the mafia is though.

Really don't see anything worthy of to vote for Aragorn, so I'm not gonna.

If the Choo Choo changes tracks let me know I guess.

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PostPosted: October 1st, 2016, 9:25 am 
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I uh, don't actually think Jaron is mafia anymore! Like at all. Unvote.

I mean like, giving tips on how not to let the mafia win?
Suggesting who may or may not be Doctor?

It's like everything he says is real sound advice, with a giant sarcastic NOPE at the end of each sentence.

So I have no idea yet who the mafia is though.

Really don't see anything worthy of to vote for Aragorn, so I'm not gonna.

If the Choo Choo changes tracks let me know I guess.


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I uh, don't actually think Jaron is mafia anymore! Like at all. Unvote.

I mean like, giving tips on how not to let the mafia win?
Suggesting who may or may not be Doctor?

It's like everything he says is real sound advice, with a giant sarcastic NOPE at the end of each sentence.

So I have no idea yet who the mafia is though.

Really don't see anything worthy of to vote for Aragorn, so I'm not gonna.

If the Choo Choo changes tracks let me know I guess.


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Agreed. How dare Sparky accuse me of lying about being Mafia! I'm going to kill you in your sleep. With a gun. That I have.

At least I still top your Mafiality chart, so I guess that means you actually believe me. Thanks, bro.

What a shame that there are only ~22 hours left in the day and no one is even halfway to a lynch, because only Sighence, Frank and I seem to view Aragorn as suspiciously non-Vanilla. That's practically half right there. And Jackstick hasn't even voted! Oh well. Another day like this and Spiro will be as good as dead anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia Revival V: Death To Be Expected - DAY TWO
PostPosted: October 1st, 2016, 2:09 pm 
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PostPosted: October 1st, 2016, 3:48 pm 
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Screw it, I'll bite.

Let's see what happens. We're not making much progress as it is.

Unvote Saten Ruiko Vote Aragorn

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Really don't see anything worthy of to vote for Aragorn, so I'm not gonna.


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...Aragorn


Mmm. Sparky for flipflopping.

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PostPosted: October 1st, 2016, 4:23 pm 
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Really don't see anything worthy of to vote for Aragorn, so I'm not gonna.


SparkyAMS wrote:
...Aragorn


Mmm. Sparky for flipflopping.


I do side with this logic. If Aragorn is citizen aligned, I would like to go after Sparky next at this point.

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That's really easily defensible as "I want to see something happen instead of stalling out like we were." Y'all gonna have to try harder.


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That's really easily defensible as "I want to see something happen instead of stalling out like we were." Y'all gonna have to try harder.
Agreed. Under Pyro's hypothetical scenario, I should be the next target, not Sparky. Sparky asked for a train. I gave him one. Starting a brand new Sparky train with 19 hours left is ludicrous and stalling at its finest. ...I should really be taking notes from you!

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That's really easily defensible as "I want to see something happen instead of stalling out like we were." Y'all gonna have to try harder.
Agreed. Under Pyro's hypothetical scenario, I should be the next target, not Sparky. Sparky asked for a train. I gave him one. Starting a brand new Sparky train with 19 hours left is ludicrous and stalling at its finest. ...I should really be taking notes from you!


I've reached the conclusion that you're a villager with how many warnings you've given everyone. At this point I'm at a loss.

Hell, maybe Top is a murderer YET AGAIN. Who knows. We're just going around in circles right now.

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I've reached the conclusion that you're a villager with how many warnings you've given everyone.
Ah! But let me direct you to...
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Jaron is actually mafia and has lured Frank into pretending to be Mafia. His true accomplice? None other than Sighence.
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So... I'm sticking with my suspicion of Jaron for now. Surely not even a jester would make a mafia claim.
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For now, I'm going with Jaron and Aragorn as my two. Possibly Jaron/Top or Jaron/Jackstick as well.
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So, the most likely mafia candidates at this time are Aragorn, Jaron, and myself.
You've believed me the entire game! Don't stop now!

But you're right in that our more pressing concern is to kill Aragorn Ix, who's probably the Doctor or the Detective or some other Village-aligned power role that Frank and I certainly want dead. He's sitting on 4/5 votes, meaning if Frank, Jack, or Top (in alphabetical order) don't cast a vote for him, we've wasted another day. Top decided to split the vote because Sparky bandwagoned. Frank voted for Top claiming he seems scummy (hello pot my name is kettle???) which makes sense given Top's stalling and rolefishing today. Jackstick hasn't actually done anything but say "yo don't kill me Spiro". I'm kind of hoping that Spiro modkills Jack for not voting the entire day, especially after Spiro's flavorful opening of "no srsly get Fuzzy Bunny done you morons". It'd certainly make my life easier.

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