Sooo....
When they don't pay their electrical bill.
Will we have to start calling the white house the dark house? Once the electricity is cut.
Now that is just racist (or at least there will be riots if you called it the Dark House).
Statistics: Posted by Burks — July 30th, 2011, 1:48 pm
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When they don't pay their electrical bill.
Will we have to start calling the white house the dark house? Once the electricity is cut.
It wouldn't be an issue had Ronald Reagan not removed the solar panels from the White House roof.
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Will we have to start calling the white house the dark house? Once the electricity is cut.
Statistics: Posted by Market Man6 — July 29th, 2011, 5:13 pm
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The problem is that there needs to be cuts desperately so taxes can be lowered. Welfare needs to be reformed big time; there are a ridiculous amount of people who abuse and defraud food stamps, medicare, medicaid, etc. and it's only getting higher.
Maybe not solve, but really cut down on the abuse and I think you'll see a change in America. Maybe not financially (there will be a change, just not a HUGE one), but I think there will be an "emotional" and "attitude" change. A LOOOOOOOOOOT of people resent paying taxes not because it is lost money, but because it's going to fund people on welfare, who abuse prescription drugs handed out by fraudulent doctors, that also drive $30k vehicles and eat better than I do. THAT angers a lot of people. See less of that, attitudes will change which to me is bigger than anything else.
They need to look into what Florida is doing. http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/07/02/florida.drug.tests.welfare/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 This is not going to solve all of Florida's, or the US's problems. But I'll be damned, it's a step....no......LEAP in the right direction.
Spend one day, hell, four hours in an emergency room and you'll see people on Medicare/Medicaid OUR age (18-30) abusing the hell out of it. "I've had a headache for seven days, only morphine helps it." Yeah, right. That's $2-$3k wasted of YOUR money on some dope fiend, out of that my hospital won't see 50% of it for weeks to months.
Statistics: Posted by Burks — July 29th, 2011, 9:07 am
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I truly hope you don't believe that the economy would have collapsed had the bailouts not happened. Again with the Keynesian economics, which does not work. Check out this this discussion on another forum I frequent. The whole thread has some pretty solid points.
Obama could have vetoed anything that came to him, which means they are thereby his responsibility.
Statistics: Posted by Snake1235 — July 29th, 2011, 12:22 am
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The stimulus should not have been started by Bush, nor continue by Obama. Keynesian economics does not work. The bailouts, if I remember correctly, were not all Bush.
The healthcare bill is misrepresented. As it stands currently, it may be correct, but not all parts of the healthcare bill are in full effect until 2014 if I remember correctly.
Syria and Libya should not even be on our budget, present or future. Those conflicts, which the President has decided are not wars so Congress can be bypassed, will likely be included in the future.
The stimulus was only continuation of Bush's policy... Obama had little choice than to continue a half-done project. All the bailouts were Bush.
Healthcare is not misrepresented here-- it was mis-represented by it's republican/tea party opponents. that is all the money we have committed to the program.
Syria/Libya will only get a new budget if congress approves....
And as much as i hate to say it, the stimulus was probably necessary to prevent a total collapse of our economy- and it's bad enough as it is.
Don't get me wrong-- i'm not real happy with the job that obama is doing-- i had much higher hopes for him-- but it's far, far superior to that idiot from crawford, and far superior to what the current crop of congressional republicans want.
as far as the budget, it's all on the village idiot of crawford.
But obama was basically put into a sinking ship, given a teaspoon and told to bail.
Statistics: Posted by hiker — July 28th, 2011, 11:35 pm
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The stimulus should not have been started by Bush, nor continued by Obama. Keynesian economics does not work. The bailouts, if I remember correctly, were not all Bush.
The healthcare bill is misrepresented. As it stands currently, it may be correct, but not all parts of the healthcare bill are in full effect until 2014 if I remember correctly.
Syria and Libya should not even be on our budget, present or future. Those conflicts, which the President has decided are not wars so Congress can be bypassed, will likely be included in the future.
Texas and the EPA is one example of the federal government using more bureaucracy and more money to threaten Texas's economy severely, which includes taxpayers. Energy production is a huge, huge business in Texas. Crippling it will do nothing but make more people suffer and make more people tempted to go on the dole, which means more and more welfare.
The problem is that there needs to be cuts desperately so taxes can be lowered. Welfare needs to be reformed big time; there are a ridiculous amount of people who abuse and defraud food stamps, medicare, medicaid, etc. and it's only getting higher.
Statistics: Posted by Snake1235 — July 28th, 2011, 11:19 pm
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that chart is based on figures from the Congressional Budget Office....
the stimulus was started by bush, continued by obama.....
the bailouts were all bush.....
the healthcare bill is included in the chart....
syria and libya came out of current defense budgets-- which obama has cut by 152 billion....
I'm not familiar with the stituation between texas and epa, but the subject here is the budget....
Statistics: Posted by hiker — July 28th, 2011, 10:56 pm
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What about Libya and Syria?
I'm not enjoying the Federal Government's attack on my state, either. They've been trying again and again to screw up the economy with regulations that are absolutely unnecessary, and some of them (i.e. attempt at putting some animal on the endangered species list) have no scientific backing.
In fact, Global Warming was recently debunked, as well. Thank NASA.
The EPA has decided Texas falls under new regulations that some other states had 10 years to prepare for. We were added on at the last minute and now have 60 days to prepare, which will mean power plants will be shutting down, and others will run at 50% capacity. There will be blackouts.
I want the government to stay out of where it doesn't belong. America is a country of regions; states, counties, and cities should cover most of the laws in those regions.
Statistics: Posted by Snake1235 — July 28th, 2011, 9:33 pm
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Don't even blame it all on Bush, Hiker.
facts speak for themselves...
Statistics: Posted by hiker — July 28th, 2011, 9:25 pm
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Also, unless I'm wrong, the number is way incorrect for that health care reform money. I seem to remember it being about $1 trillion. Include the extra money it'll cost after the loopholes in it are taken advantage of, and it's even worse. Include other entitlements, and it's still way worse than that number. Obama and the Democrats ran up the debt by so much in about a year that it's not even funny.
Statistics: Posted by Snake1235 — July 28th, 2011, 8:43 pm
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So is China funding all this money?
Statistics: Posted by killa kiaba — July 28th, 2011, 6:30 pm
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@Simon - He's saying that building an actual stack of monies like that next to the WTC would have been a good idea as it would have acted as a barrier from them airplanes crashing into the towers on 9/11.
I'd give it a go, see how it plays out.
-Phat
Statistics: Posted by Phat Hobo — July 28th, 2011, 6:23 pm
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Snake1235 wrote:
I'd save your fuming over those numbers for when you actually have any idea as to what they mean.
what they mean I'm confused
look at th money in last image where its in a tower by the skyscrapers. that's actualy a good idea maybe it could have been a shield for wtc september 11 and save more lives
What...? Any way I try to read that, it just makes you seem painfully stupid.
Statistics: Posted by Simons Pure — July 28th, 2011, 5:07 pm
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Statistics: Posted by hiker — July 28th, 2011, 3:44 pm
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I'd save your fuming over those numbers for when you actually have any idea as to what they mean.
You could go ahead and explain them for those here who may not understand them instead of leaving an open ended and borderline insulting comment ya know.
Statistics: Posted by Scar — July 28th, 2011, 3:29 pm
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I'd save your fuming over those numbers for when you actually have any idea as to what they mean.
what they mean I'm confused
look at th money in last image where its in a tower by the skyscrapers. that's actualy a good idea maybe it could have been a shield for wtc september 11 and save more lives
Statistics: Posted by challenger — July 28th, 2011, 2:35 pm
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