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RuneVillage.com Where Gamers Escape! 2012-09-26T15:10:34-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/feed.php?f=12&t=437891 2012-09-26T15:10:34-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313546#p10313546 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]> Jackstick wrote:

The files on Github may be a a little bit outdated. They're 2+ years old, but Thyker and Glodenox were making modifications to the chat up until mid last year, if I recall.

We'll compare stuff tomorrow. I'm guessing that most of the differences will be feature-related (like Bell, user colors, themes, and some moderator commands), nothing too fundamental.



if you have all the up to date cpp files and h files then compiling will be easy - i have just got mine working, Its a mox between C and C++, i thought it was all C++

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2012-09-26T14:48:05-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313543#p10313543 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]>
We'll compare stuff tomorrow. I'm guessing that most of the differences will be feature-related (like Bell, user colors, themes, and some moderator commands), nothing too fundamental.

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2012-09-26T13:12:22-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313541#p10313541 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]>
fixing 8 errors so far, Pretty sure there is only 1 left but i cant get it :(

Edit

Got another 3, Now fully compiled. It doesnt seem to like to start though i get this back

exussum@exussumuk:~/rvchat/vyhd-rvserver-eaa7585/src$ ./rvserver                ERROR: required config option "Daemonize" not found
Terminated


with config file
// set 1 if you want the server to daemonize on startup

Daemonize=1
// the port this server listens on
ServerPort=7005

// can be an IP or a host name
DatabaseHost=www.runevillage.com

// must be relative to DatabaseHost
LoginPage=/ThePub/authenticate.php
ConfigPage=/ThePub/chatconfig.php
BanPage=/ThePub/chatban.php

// Read/write timeouts for database access, in milliseconds
DatabaseReadTimeout=1000
DatabaseWriteTimeout=1000

// user idle limits, in minutes
UserIdleTime=5
UserKickTime=90

// if the server can't load config, default to this
DefaultConfig=theme|Classic|red|0|green|0|blue|0|freezeChat|false|ignoreColors|false|timeStamp|false|beep|true|bleep|true|audio|true

// Name of the default room
DefaultRoom=RV Chat

// comma-delimited, e.g. "Room A,Room B"
AdditionalRooms=Spam Room

// The single-character levels used by the server (no seperators)
ModLevels=ACcbf!
BanLevel=d

// optional; determines sleep time (in microseconds) between updates
SleepTime=150000

// optional; any updates taking longer than this report update time on stdout
LagSpikeTime=250

// Defines the folder under which all logs are kept. Trailing slash required!
LogPath=/var/log/rvserver/

// If true, all chat lines are output to stdout
ChatOutput=1
DebugMode=1


hmm may be due to the compiler errors, Most were fixed by including cstring

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2012-09-26T00:50:13-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313530#p10313530 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]> Statistics: Posted by Jackstick — September 26th, 2012, 12:50 am


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2012-09-26T00:39:46-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313529#p10313529 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]> Jackstick wrote:

Reggie,

The RV chat I listed there is the old meepchat we used several years ago. I don't think it's something we'd want to use right now. If I recall correctly, we stopped using it because of a "memory leak" or something.


Fairly certain that was the Virtualisation i tested it (with fake users posting random strings though) and it didnt seem to happen. Java doesnt play nice with some VM's


Quote:

Yup, pretty sure it's written in C++. Quite a few of the files are saved as .cpp, so yeah.

Found the source

https://github.com/vyhd/rvserver

INSTALL says
autoheader
aclocal
autoconf
automake
./configure
make


Run that



Quote:

This is something that we should discuss in chat or skype or something. It'll take way too long if we just go back-and-forth with posts or PMs. Let's schedule a time to discuss it in chat, or you can PM me your Skype name or your cell #. I'm pretty confident that we can get this done in a matters of hours if we're discussing it in person.



Its going to be harder because of the time zone difference, between 7 and 10 my time is usually when im around, But only Mondays Wednesdays Thursdays really..

PMed you my skype

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2012-09-25T19:01:32-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313523#p10313523 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]>
The RV chat I listed there is the old meepchat we used several years ago. I don't think it's something we'd want to use right now. If I recall correctly, we stopped using it because of a "memory leak" or something.

The OS on the VPS I'm testing is CentOS, a verson of Linux tailored for servers (I'm sure you know that, just clarifying for the commoners!)

Yup, pretty sure it's written in C++. Quite a few of the files are saved as .cpp, so yeah.


This is something that we should discuss in chat or skype or something. It'll take way too long if we just go back-and-forth with posts or PMs. Let's schedule a time to discuss it in chat, or you can PM me your Skype name or your cell #. I'm pretty confident that we can get this done in a matters of hours if we're discussing it in person.

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2012-09-25T15:59:44-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313518#p10313518 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]> Jackstick wrote:

The chatroom. They don't know how to install it properly, and neither do I. The files and stuff are all there, but I guess they're just having trouble putting everything in place.

Our chatroom is a heavily-modified version meepster's chat (or at least pretty similar), created by Fant some time last year or two years ago, with the help of Thyker and Glodenox. Well, now Fant and Thyker are gone, and I'm not sure how much freetime Glodenox has these days. But if I understand correctly, it doesn't need to be recreated from the ground up. It just needs to be installed properly.



Do things like this not make you wonder WHY you are have paid for managed VPS ........

Right, The RV chat listed there will likely still work - i can get that running quite quick. I dont have the new source code for the chat.

Assuming you are running on a similar OS (the same is better) and knowing its written in C++ im going to guess you start it like this

cd /path/to/chat

./RVChat

where RVChat is the compiled code.

if that doesnt work make sure its executable

chmod +x RVChat

If that works great, You now need to either run it in a screen or disown the process to when you close the SSH connection the chat server stays running.

if there are any errors PM me and ill help.

if you need the java one i can give better instructions due to actually having the code

just downloaded the meep chat (the java version listed)

Invalid property: <br
Line: <br />
Invalid property: <b>Fatal
Line: <b>Fatal error</b>: Cannot redeclare parse_this_info() (previously declared in /home/runevill/public_html/site/common.php:128) in <b>/home/runevill/public_html/site/modules/site_RVChat.php</b> on line <b>41</b><br />
Listening on port: 7005

Is what i get i assume something changed on RV ?

edit:

Looked though the old topic, Fant released the source code but it no longer is hosted

vyhd.homelinux.org:8080/code/RVChat/

ANywhere else i can get a copy ?

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2012-09-25T14:00:58-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313517#p10313517 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]> Market Man6 wrote:

pick number 1 me lord!

Fuzzy Bunny it, two for me. Most of us want to move on as fast as possible. The chat can always wait.

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2012-09-25T12:27:59-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313512#p10313512 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]> Statistics: Posted by Market Man6 — September 25th, 2012, 12:27 pm


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2012-09-25T10:51:48-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313511#p10313511 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]> Market Man6 wrote:

that is good news!

Well good, because here comes some bad news! :awesome:

I'm testing out a VPS server at http://www.futurehosting.com

The service is great, and they have an awesome support staff, but there's one tiny problem: The chatroom. They don't know how to install it properly, and neither do I. The files and stuff are all there, but I guess they're just having trouble putting everything in place.

Our chatroom is a heavily-modified version meepster's chat (or at least pretty similar), created by Fant some time last year or two years ago, with the help of Thyker and Glodenox. Well, now Fant and Thyker are gone, and I'm not sure how much freetime Glodenox has these days. But if I understand correctly, it doesn't need to be recreated from the ground up. It just needs to be installed properly.

So we have three options: 1) Go back to glorious flashchat or some other software (hopefully temporarily), 2) Screw chat, move now and we'll worry about it later, 3) See if we can solve this problem ourselves in a reasonable amount of time before moving.

I'd like to avoid crippling us any further, so I'm open to options 1 and 3. I don't want this to be a several weeks/months long process, in fact I was really hoping to finalize this transition within this week, but I won't rush this process at the cost of our chatroom. So, I'm going to need some help here.

Otherwise, everything else is moving pretty smoothly. :awesome: I'm still working on a custom design for our WordPress page, a new donation account has been set up, and pretty much everything (besides the chatroom) is playing nice with the VPS that I'm testing.


About the donation account: I don't know how Henner's account was set up, but apparently I'm required to have a "Business" level account if I want to be able to accept donations from non-PayPal users, and be able to accept donations through a page on our website.

There's a downside to having a Business-level account: PayPal takes about 3%+30¢ per transaction, probably because they're Fuzzy Bunny. So if you donate $10, I'll receive $9.40.

I'll answer any questions you have about donations, costs, etc.


BTW I hope none of you are too worried about this process stagnating. Yeah, it's taking a little bit longer than I'd like, but I'm working pretty much every day, and making a lot of progress. After this, though, after we're moved and we have a new main page and stuff, the rest is up to you. Don't expect me to be the only one out there rallying for our site. If you want this site to succeed, then you share an equal responsibility in making that happen.

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2012-09-24T22:46:40-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313497#p10313497 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]> Statistics: Posted by Market Man6 — September 24th, 2012, 10:46 pm


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2012-09-24T12:31:40-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313487#p10313487 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]> http://www.server4you.com/vserver/index.php

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2012-09-18T07:54:21-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313299#p10313299 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]> Statistics: Posted by Market Man6 — September 18th, 2012, 7:54 am


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2012-09-18T00:23:56-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313294#p10313294 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]>
Carry on, everyone.

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2012-09-17T12:54:36-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313278#p10313278 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]> Demon wrote:

I have nothing against Webmin or the CentOS build. If you have a reliable host, then use it. anything 80gb+ should be more than fine ( just incase we Fuzzy Bunny up and blow through a Fuzzy Bunny ton of bandwidth somehow or we have a visitor spike ) as for ram, with VPS there is a lovely system of floating memory so things aren't necessarily saved to the server's harddrive.. not sure how that effects, but I know it takes a bit to use up all of your system's dedicated memory.



There way more than that, And im only suggesting them because they are "easy" to set up and manage and free.

Floating memory ? Not saved to hard drive ? Im not 100% sure what you mean... It functions like a dedicated server ?

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2012-09-16T09:23:52-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313268#p10313268 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]> up and blow through a Fuzzy Bunny ton of bandwidth somehow or we have a visitor spike ) as for ram, with VPS there is a lovely system of floating memory so things aren't necessarily saved to the server's harddrive.. not sure how that effects, but I know it takes a bit to use up all of your system's dedicated memory.

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2012-09-15T13:14:05-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313252#p10313252 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]> Statistics: Posted by reggie — September 15th, 2012, 1:14 pm


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2012-09-15T12:17:13-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313251#p10313251 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]> Statistics: Posted by Demon — September 15th, 2012, 12:17 pm


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2012-09-15T03:05:47-06:00 http://www.poorshark.com/ThePub/viewtopic.php?t=437891&p=10313244#p10313244 <![CDATA[Re: TIME FOR A...]]> Jackstick wrote:

Reggie, is there a reason why those companies offer extremely low-priced services? I'm still very new to all of this, so maybe my idea of a "realistic price" is a little off. KnownHost, FutureHosting and DreamHost are in the $25-$30 range, for example.

Bear in mind, we're not just looking for the least-expensive service out there. We're currently paying $100/quarter, so even going with some of the hosts I listed above would result in a price drop. A low price is nice, but things like reliability and customer support take precedence. If Burst can offer that, then we may just go with them. It definitely seems like a good service from what I've read so far, though.


@Reggie & Demon: How would things like FTP accounts and phpmyAdmin be managed without cPanel? I'd like to make things easier, not more difficult. :down:


My PayPal account is almost set up. I've been neglecting it, I know. But I'll try to have it up and ready tomorrow, because we may need some donations to cover the initial payments during this transition.


Same price comparison apps exist. I have been with 4 of the companys i listed for at least 6 months, and having 100% uptime from their side. I pay £3 a month for a very highly ranked L4D server. lowendbox.com is pretty much dedicated to finding good value hosts (NOT cheap ones - if they look dodgy its usually mentioned)
I host a large number of websites on similar servers and have no issue. One im paying $15 a year for looks like this

08:58:30 up 248 days, 20:05,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.01, 0.02


Im pretty sure that is better than RV's. Without cpanel etc its completely possibly to get a full webserver in a very small amount of RAM

phpMyAdmin - Personally i never install on a server, I always lock the port down to localhost only (or if running a dedicated MySQL just that IP). Then on my side do a SSH port forward and run a local phpMyAdmin though the tunnel. Allows me to keep 1 version up to date for multiple hosts and doesnt expose mysql at all to the internet

FTP - Easily set up to run of a database (which yours probably already is) 2 options - either install kloxo (literally 3 commands + 20 mins setting up after - runs pretty much like cpanel after that) or phpMyAdmin to manage users. If you want kloxo - most hosts already have the "kloxo host in a box" template.
http://freecode.com/screenshots/7b/e7/7 ... medium.png

A kloxo screenshot if your used to cPanel you should see how similar it is


If you wanted a lighter panel - use webmin.

People charge $100 a quarter *because they can*. Most of the people you buy of just buy a cheaper server and resell that.

BuyVM if you google them they are known for always having very little stock with a huge demand, They release like 200 servers and are sold out in less than 10 mins.

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